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richardfangnail

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:28 pm
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I love the Big Island because it's not crowded. Hapuna Beach is one of
the greatest places I've ever been to.

Maui - Lahaina is a bit crowded but is nice.

Oahu obviously has the most things to do and see. I'm not sure if
Waikiki is popular because it's famous or because it's a good beach.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:53 am
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richardfangnail DeleteThis @excite.com wrote:

>I love the Big Island because it's not crowded. Hapuna Beach is one of
>the greatest places I've ever been to.
>Maui - Lahaina is a bit crowded but is nice...

Sounds like you don't prefer crowds. If that is a principal concern, I
recommend Molokai (we just returned from a week there). FWIW, I lived
in Hawaii for a year and have traveled to all the main islands on
multiple trips. If you want comparisons and suggestions, I can offer a
few. But please specify your interests and desires.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:59 pm
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richardfangnail RemoveThis @excite.com wrote:
> I love the Big Island because it's not crowded. Hapuna Beach is one of
> the greatest places I've ever been to.
>
> Maui - Lahaina is a bit crowded but is nice.
>
> Oahu obviously has the most things to do and see. I'm not sure if
> Waikiki is popular because it's famous or because it's a good beach.

I think that what many people fail to consider in choosing an island to
visit is where they're from. If you live a hectic life in a big city
you should probably visit a more quiet island first. Conversely, if
you're from small town America, Oahu and Honolulu would be a good
choice to begin, otherwise you could possibly become easily bored.
Then later, go to an island with the opposite characteristics. Outside
of nightlife, the island of Hawaii to me has the most varierty, with
the volcano, deserts, rain forests, in winter snow capped mountains,
etc. and there is much more than just lying on the beach. It's also
the largest so it takes much more time to see things.

George
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:22 pm
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richardfangnail RemoveThis @excite.com wrote:

>..Oahu obviously has the most things to do and see.

Um, doesn't that depend on what things one likes doing and seeing?

>I'm not sure if Waikiki is popular because it's famous or because it's a good beach.

That whole area used to be a swamp. The beach sand there was taken
from Molokai. People who don't mind artificiality love Waikiki. It is
the most efficient tourist money-extraction machine I have ever seen
(well, maybe with the exception of Las Vegas -- where we don't go).


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:49 pm
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"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote:

>Caveat wrote:
>> ...People who don't mind artificiality love Waikiki.
>
>Well, in January, compared to Detroit, Chicago, Toronto, Winnipeg, etc.
>I will take "artificial" any day.

That's coming from artificial and then going to artificial, isn't it?
I prefer really natural (not to mention uncrowded, inexpensive, etc.).
But diff'rent strokes... Las Vegas still draws the crowds. Now if you
are only talking about a nice weather spot to go to in mid-winter,
that offers a multitude of tourist offerings, by all means be my
guest. But I can do without that multitude of tourist offerings.

>Last year we spent three days in Waikiki ...

A nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there (again). Back
then I used it as a base to work and make money between trips to the
other islands. Worked just fine for that, but I was happy to leave it.

>To be able to walk
>half a block from our hotel and be on the beach and swim lengths at 7 am
>before breakfast, watch a sunset on the beach in the evening and still
>do all the things available on Oahu during the day I think Waikiki is
>pretty damn good.

Yep, but my point is that there are dozens of places in Hawaii that
have the good things, but none of the big city horrors of Honoruru.

>I would not make it my total destination in Hawaii
>but as a stopover for a few days, with many reasonably priced hotels, it
>is a great vacation spot.

The airport serves well as a stopover to other islands, or places
beyond we go to, like Tahiti, Bora Bora, Moorea, Rarotonga, Bali, etc.

>And how "artificial" are the resorts and condos on Maui and Hawai'i,
>built on landfill over the barren lava fields. Beautiful but still
>"artificial".

Agree. That's why I avoid Kaanapali, Kailua-Kona, and the other new,
big resort centers. It's just my opinion, of course, but I think Joni
Mitchell got it right when she described a growing Waikiki:

"They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot
Donít it always seem to go
That you donít know what youíve got
Till itís gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot"

But, hey, I encourage everyone to go to Waikiki, and stay there. That
way the better places my wife and I go to don't get too overcrowded.

Enjoy,


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"Visitors to Hawaii topped 7 million for the first time last year,
and the tourism industry is talking about making the islands a little
more exclusive."
------------ CNN
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:42 pm
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I like Maui, Kauai and Big Island over Oahu anyday. People in the
travel business seem to push Oahu, LOL. Oh, I'd like to go to Molokai.
Smile
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:17 pm
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"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote:

>Caveat wrote:
>> ...horrors of Honoruru.
>
>Now you are showing your true colours!!

That's a local island yoke, egghead Smile.

Hmm...."colours" eh? No wonder you think Waikiki is wonderful.
Cold up there, eh? Causes one to be just a tad humour-impaired?

<LMAO>


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:15 pm
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"trippinkpj" wrote:

>I like Maui, Kauai and Big Island over Oahu anyday. People in the
>travel business seem to push Oahu, LOL.

The operative word there is "business" Smile.

>Oh, I'd like to go to Molokai...

Now we have a wise person posting here. Molokai is the antithesis of
Oahu. I first went there 34 years ago with only a backpack and a
desire to explore. Lived in Halawa Valley off the land. No one within
miles. Private beach, stunning scenery, waterfalls -- a real Paradise.

We went back to Molokai last week and not much has changed in the
intervening years. Total population around 7500 -- on the entire
island. Friendly people. We did the day long tour on Kalaupapa (Father
Damien's leper colony), hiked Halawa Valley with a 100% Hawaiian who
now lives there growing taro on his ancestor's land, drove to the
Waikolu Overlook then hiked the Kamakou Preserve in a cloud forest,
toured the highest sea cliffs in the world and saw the "Wall of Tears"
waterfalls there, went out on a boat for whale watching, and spent a
day on the 4-mile long Popohaku Beach (where Waikiki got its sand).

But don't tell anybody about this island. Send them to Waikiki. <g>


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Molokai mo bettah.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:42 pm
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Thanks for the info/ links on Molokai, AlohaCyber.
About the Oahu comment that it's more than Waikiki. I do know that, and
have enjoyed visiting Pearl Harbor, Leeward Coast, Windward coast,
Hanauma Bay, Pali lookout, Sealife Park, Polynesian Cultural Center,
North shore beaches (Waimea Walls park), Hale'iwa town and the Dole
plantation. I'm not knocking Oahu: just saying I find the tropical
beauty of the other islands a better vacation experience for me. Smile
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:08 pm
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I meant Waimea Falls Park, although I'll comment that it's more
commercial now than it was when I first went in 1980.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:17 pm
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I didn't know that. I was last there 3 years ago in 03, so I guess I
shouldn't call that "today". Do they still charge "per person"
admission?
Thanks Alohacyberian. Smile
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:23 pm
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"Alohacyberian" wrote:

>>>Oh, I'd like to go to Molokai...

>> ...We went back to Molokai last week and not much has changed in the
>> intervening years. Total population around 7500 -- on the entire
>> island.

>Actually the population of Molokai has dipped a little in the last 34 years.
>During the last Census, the population was 6,587 and is probably a little
>less at this time. KM

Glad to hear about someplace in the islands that isn't getting more
crowded Smile. That decline is probably due to the exiting of Dole and
Del Monte from the island. (Growing pineapples in the Philippines is
likely much cheaper -- something noted in their products these days.)

Because of the active discouragement of development on Molokai --
including tourism -- we were curious to see what kind of welcome (or
lack of) we would receive from the locals on this trip. They were
actually quite gracious, as it turned out. The tourist facilities are
somewhat limited, of course, but were more than adequate for our
purposes. We feel fortunate to have revisited the island at this point
in time, and are indebted to the islanders for their kokua.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:25 pm
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Yes, great Molokai info. I'd like to stay in a B&B there next year
sometime. I'm just not sure which region yet.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:00 pm
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"trippinkpj" wrote:

>Thank-you for the explanation Caveat. I kind of gathered that from what
>I saw. After reading your post, we are the Eastern side/ near town B&B
>cottage types. We would be more comfortable there than at the condos/
>resorts. To give you a clue, on Maui we stay in Haiku (at a B&B). And
>on Kauai we stayed in Kalaheo at a B&B one bdr. unit. Thank you for the
>links!

There are a lot more B&B-type places there than those listed, but can
only be found by driving around or asking in town. Many of these don't
bother with websites. Also, phone service in trying to contact these
places can be quite bad -- especially from the mainland (and there is
essentially no cell phone coverage on the island).

We also usually stay at B&Bs, but the problem on Molokai is getting
the other meals. Dining out is very expensive and limited to a few
places in town -- which requires a lot of driving unless you are
nearby. We chose that condo on this trip because it had a full
kitchen, and saved a lot of money because we could do our own meals.

BTW, the Molokai Shores has been around for decades and only a quarter
of the units are rentals -- primarily to residents of other islands on
vacation.The rest are owned and occupied by locals. There isn't a
condo scene there -- not even a golf course Smile. But now that we know
our way around a bit better, we'll probably opt for a B&B on the far
East Coast on the next trip to Molokai.

Enjoy your planning.


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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:16 pm
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Thanks KM. So do you have a recommendation on a B&B in the 80.- to
$100.- range?
Thanks again! Smile
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